Sweden's Defense Minister Pal Jonson, second left, speaks with Turkey's Defense Minister Yasar Guler, second right, during a meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group in the format of NATO defense ministers at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Thursday, June 13, 2024. NATO defense ministers gathered Thursday hoping to agree on a new plan to provide long-term security assistance and military training to Ukraine, after Hungary promised not to veto the scheme as long as it's not forced to take part. (AP Photo/Virginia Mayo)